Temperature column stays empty when clicking yellowing/browning/1c/2c

[jakesilly]

The temperature on the Gene Cafe is split between the SET temp and READ temp. There is no distinction in this log. There really should be because people change the temp setting depending on the bean to allow for some form of roast profile manipulation.
Also when I click on Yellowing, Browning, 1C and 2C buttons, the temperature is not logged (takes an additional step).

[tbille]

I use the same roaster. It seems like a nice feature to have.

The table could look like this (random data in the table for the example):

Time	Set temperature	Current temperature	Notes
00:00	230	28	Start
00:30	230	50
...	...	...	...
06:00	240	220	Yellowing

I am not really familiar with other roasters, but if the Set temperature is not set then nothing will be in the column Set temperature.

Time	Set temperature	Current temperature	Notes
...	...	...	...
06:00		230

If someone changes the set temp without adding current temp and presses enter:

Time	Set temperature	Current temperature	Notes
...	...	...	...
06:00	230

Finally next to the timer I can add the input for set temp.

I will work on this feature as soon as I have a moment 😄

[jakesilly]

The set temperature and read temperature are important variables. Some people roast outside with variable temperatures (I've seen people roast from -4°C up to 35°C environment temp and that will have an impact). Also if you look into roast profiles for the Gene Cafe, a lot of people change the temperature during the roast to stretch e.g. the drying phase or development phase after 1C. Your suggestion of adding an additional column is exactly what I'm thinking of. I would automatically take over the previous setting unless it's manually changed to avoid having to do too much input so that you can keep your focus on the roast. I think this tool is really useful for roasters using a GC CBR, but I really need that additional info. I currently just log my stuff in google docs where I can add every detail that I use. I do need an additional timer, which is a really nice feature embedded on your site, also the beep is a nice touch. This tool might be useful for other home coffee roasters but once you're going to the more professional style roasters, you're going to need yet another step up. I actually already ordered my next upgrade (a Cormorant CR600) which is compatible with Artisan software that logs data automatically. That doesn't mean I'm done with the GC though, I'll keep using it until it dies. Also nice features to add in your .csv file is the information about the roasted bean: - roast date - country (e.g. Peru) - farm (e.g. El Palto) - type (e.g. Arabica) - process (e.g. washed) - elevation (e.g. 1100m) - density ... If you google "roast log" and check the images, you'll see a lot of examples of what details people log for their roasts. I know you can always manually add it later to your CSV, but it's nice and neat if all the info gets spit out in a ready to digest cvs file. Just adding some ideas to make it a bit more interesting for the passionate roaster ;-)

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On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 12:13 AM Toto Bille ***@***.***> wrote: I use the same roaster. It seems like a nice feature to have. The table could look like this (random data in the table for the example): Time Set temperature Current temperature Notes 00:00 230 28 Start 00:30 230 50 ... ... ... ... 06:00 240 220 Yellowing I am not really familiar with other roasters, but if the Set temperature is not set then nothing will be in the column Set temperature. Time Set temperature Current temperature Notes ... ... ... ... 06:00 230 If someone changes the set temp without adding current temp and presses enter: Time Set temperature Current temperature Notes ... ... ... ... 06:00 230 Finally next to the timer I can add the input for set temp. I will work on this feature as soon as I have a moment 😄 — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AD7KW62CFISXRIUUZA4BU73SEKZYPANCNFSM4QZWXWFA> .

[tbille]

Thanks for all this nice feedback :)

My approach is to keep it very simple since once you start using automated software like artisan you wouldn't need that kind of manual timer.

I actually do use a google docs too to add all the extra details. Here is the template with extra details that I use: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XjP8Api_LssPs9qrmTXY2DSd5GyEuTPHT_yDVnyYT3w/edit?usp=sharing

I actually already ordered my next upgrade (a Cormorant CR600) which is
compatible with Artisan software that logs data automatically. That doesn't
mean I'm done with the GC though, I'll keep using it until it dies.

It's been a while I am looking at this one too! I am still very much new to the roasting world but I am super curious to know what is your experience on it. You can drop me an email any time 😄

[jakesilly]

My approach is to keep it very simple Nothing wrong with that. I come from an ICT background, as you may well know, the first thing you always learn is the KISS principle and I stand fully behind it. It's just my personal opinion that adding a bit of needed info isn't complicating things, adding additional tools to reach the same goal is... but again, opinions, everybody has one ;) The CR600 really is a nice tool if you're serious about roasting but professional equipment is either too much or too expensive. It offers all the features of a big professional roaster... the only downside is, it's handmade and it takes quite a few months from the order to delivery date. When you're looking forward to something, time seems to stretch out and it feels like forever. I'm expecting one somewhere in December (hopefully!) and I'll probably make some videos once I'm all set up. I can't say I'm very experienced with roasting either. I've got my GC for about 1.5 years now and roasted probably about 15kg on it in total. I did follow a professional roasting course as well where I roasted (about) an additional 15kg on a 1kg Probat and a Probatino sample roaster. My intention is to build on this hobby and eventually grow it out to a business project, hence my upgrade and next step towards a more professional roaster with all the bells and whistles that I want/need. The CR600 is already something that I could use for a side business which is really impossible with my current roaster. But in case I just suck at roasting (or the business side), I can still keep it for personal use without really burning my pants. So yeah, that's perhaps where my wish for more detail comes from... I really need all that data in the tools I use to get back to for reference, to see what goes right and wrong in a roast. I also did a barista training, not to open or work in a shop but just to know how to make a good cup. I mainly drink regular filter coffee (pour over) but I enjoy a French press, moka pot or espresso just as well :) That's about my story... In the meantime, I'm still active in IT. Started out as a software developer, then ended up in Support for the last 20 years and now I'm retraining to get back in development because I'm sick and tired of support! Who knows, maybe I'll write my own software as my "thesis" too. It seems to me that a lot of IT people have a high interest in coffee... I've always wondered why 😁

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On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 4:21 PM Toto Bille ***@***.***> wrote: Thanks for all this nice feedback :) My approach is to keep it very simple since once you start using automated software like artisan you wouldn't need that kind of manual timer. I actually do use a google docs too to add all the extra details. Here is the template with extra details that I use: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XjP8Api_LssPs9qrmTXY2DSd5GyEuTPHT_yDVnyYT3w/edit?usp=sharing I actually already ordered my next upgrade (a Cormorant CR600) which is compatible with Artisan software that logs data automatically. That doesn't mean I'm done with the GC though, I'll keep using it until it dies. It's been a while I am looking at this one too! I am still very much new to the roasting world but I am super curious to know what is your experience on it. You can drop me an email any time 😄 — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AD7KW6YFPIUF6PFYWXYLU5DSEOLFNANCNFSM4QZWXWFA> .

[tbille]

@jakesilly I finally took the time to update the timer! Let me know what you think of it 😄

[jakesilly]

Ha, thanks for remembering me :) I have to say, I've recently started an immersive course and haven't been able to roast anything. But that being said, I do have a new roaster on order, a Cormorant CR600 that should be ready for shipping by the end of January. I did have a quick look at your site and the first thing that I bumped into was that the Set Temperature and Current Temperature inputs have been disabled before the timer starts. Just like you have the Notes field enabled, I don't see any reason why you won't allow a little extra preparation time. These are 2 values that are known at the start of the roast, usually i.e. the set temperature and room temperature since there's no added benefit to preheat the CBR. The thing I like is that if you input a temperature reading and press <enter>, the focus on the input field remains the same. This is user-friendly. However, if at the next reading you enter in the notes your beans turn yellow, the focus remains on the Notes field and doesn't return back to the current temperature reading. So for the next reading, it requires more input / time to log your values. My initial comments remain though. The export to CSV lacks data and formatting for my personal preferences. I'd need to take that data and manually copy/paste the relevant info in a "real" roast log. But again, that's just my preference. I guess for a lot of home roasters this will probably do. Just like you have 2 buttons for 1st and 2nd crack, maybe it would be handy to add buttons for yellow, cinnamon, brown as well. It's useful information and saves you time from typing it in the notes.

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:13 AM Toto Bille ***@***.***> wrote: @jakesilly <https://github.com/jakesilly> I finally took the time to update the timer! Let me know what you think of it 😄 — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AD7KW674VKJNW36WQAQVCHDSWJ2QLANCNFSM4QZWXWFA> .