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Pull request checklist

  • add new concept list
  • add new metadata
  • add new Concepticon concept sets
    • checked whether the new concept(s) can be applied to existing lists with
      concepticon notlinked --gloss "NEW_GLOSS"
  • add new Concepticon concept relations
  • refine existing Concepticon concept set mappings
  • refine Concepticon glosses
  • refine Concepticon concept relations
  • refine Concepticon concept definitions
  • retire data

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Hi Mattis, I have added the wordlist and edited the required files for adding concepts used in the CLDF dataset derived from Khalid's "Grammatical Sketch of Asur" from 2020.

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@abishekjs, I am a bit confused about the mapping of you: the original text has:

  • you (singular)
  • you (plural)

But your concept list has only you two times.

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  • correct the entries and map to THOU and YOU in.

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A common tip is: check on Concepticon at https://concepticon.clld.org/values how we have done mappings in the past. This will clarify what our decisions are. It is a bit like being a judge and drawing judgments on old cases.

Khalid-2020-200-67 67 meat 634 MEAT
Khalid-2020-200-68 68 blood 946 BLOOD
Khalid-2020-200-69 69 bone 1394 BONE
Khalid-2020-200-70 70 fat (noun) 2095 FAT (FOR NOURISHMENT)
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FAT should be mapped to FAT (SUBSTANCE)

Khalid-2020-200-88 88 belly 1251 BELLY
Khalid-2020-200-89 89 guts 1334 GUTS
Khalid-2020-200-90 90 neck 1333 NECK
Khalid-2020-200-91 91 back 2910 BACK (DIRECTION)
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BACK is BACK (BODY PART) here

Khalid-2020-200-102 102 to breathe 1407 BREATHE
Khalid-2020-200-103 103 to laugh 1355 LAUGH
Khalid-2020-200-104 104 to see 1409 SEE
Khalid-2020-200-105 105 to hear 1608 LISTEN
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HEAR (1408)

Khalid-2020-200-122 122 to come 1446 COME
Khalid-2020-200-123 123 to lie (as in a bed) 215 LIE DOWN
Khalid-2020-200-124 124 to sit 1416 SIT
Khalid-2020-200-125 125 to turn (intransitive) 1588 TURN
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https://concepticon.clld.org/parameters/1444

TURN AROUND is turn "intransitive" in Concepticon

Khalid-2020-200-147 147 river 666 RIVER
Khalid-2020-200-148 148 pond 2035 POND
Khalid-2020-200-149 149 salt 1274 SALT
Khalid-2020-200-150 150 stone 2125 STONE OR ROCK
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STONE only, not the broad one here.

Khalid-2020-200-49 49 rabbit 1136 RABBIT
Khalid-2020-200-50 50 goat 1502 GOAT
Khalid-2020-200-51 51 pig 1337 PIG
Khalid-2020-200-52 52 louse 310 HEAD LOUSE
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LOUSE

Khalid-2020-200-25 25 five 493 FIVE
Khalid-2020-200-26 26 big 1202 BIG
Khalid-2020-200-27 27 long 1203 LONG
Khalid-2020-200-28 28 wide 2652 BROAD OR WIDE
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WIDE

Khalid-2020-200-2 2 you 1213 YOU
Khalid-2020-200-3 3 he 2642 HE OR SHE
Khalid-2020-200-4 4 we 1131 WE (INCLUSIVE)
Khalid-2020-200-5 5 you 1213 YOU
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correct gloss: you (plural)

ID NUMBER ENGLISH CONCEPTICON_ID CONCEPTICON_GLOSS
Khalid-2020-200-1 1 I 1209 I
Khalid-2020-200-2 2 you 1213 YOU
Khalid-2020-200-3 3 he 2642 HE OR SHE
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link to "he" unless you have SUPERPERFECT evidence that the "he" in that language also means "she". And then make sure it does not mean "it" as well.

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It means 'He' and 'She' but I am not sure if it also means 'It'. I checked the original source PDF, table 1 'Pronouns in Asur' and additionally the Asur dictionary, page 6- https://b0def920-9729-447b-97c8-5f6e2e57c168.filesusr.com/ugd/3e3b0a_20c16ff844024dbea47b405720964b0d.pdf

But the language uses demonstratives distinguishing animacy. 'It' could be referenced as 'this' or 'that' (inanimate).

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ID NUMBER ENGLISH CONCEPTICON_ID CONCEPTICON_GLOSS
Khalid-2020-200-1 1 I 1209 I
Khalid-2020-200-2 2 you 1213 YOU
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you -> you (singular) and map to THOU

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